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Episode 85: Accessibility of Public Transport for People with Disabilities

CripChat Australia is produced and delivered by Australian Disability​, it aims to educate, entertain and inform the general community how they can help us create a more accessible and inclusive society for people with disabilities, their friends, and family.

Hosted by Jonathan Shar, David Daoud, Ibby Dee, and Guests

Content Warning: This podcast may include content unsuitable for children who have not been exposed to people with disabilities-related themes and issues that are sometimes expressed by using coarse language or outdated terms.

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Speaker 1 (0s): My daughter, a support worker after class on Wednesdays who loves to cook and is into salsa. Dancing.

Speaker 2 (20s): Mabel is the website that’s revolutionizing disability support. It lets you find and choose PayPal, offering the support that you want. And because we’re online, it’s easy and affordable. Find your that I use.

Speaker 3 (39s): Everybody woke up to CripChat you’re all working for costs on everything. Disability, a winter in July. I have Jonathan and Jonathan Well, I’m very, very good. Thank you. Feeling good. Nah. Yeah. Just wondering what’s gonna happen now that restrictions that really lifted that QR codes gone by anyways.

Speaker 4 (1m 29s): to be So now,

Speaker 3 (1m 51s): Well, we’re going to talk about the use of public transport and a car people with disabilities. Find the, you know, using the public transport system during our conversation. If you want to say, please free to do that in the comments. Jonathan, tell us what’s your experience like? Got you got bumped with dreads for

Speaker 4 (2m 19s): I find my theory behind.

Speaker 3 (2m 45s): Oh yeah. Yeah. And how’s that Phil, you know, post pandemic.

Speaker 4 (3m 10s): my,

Speaker 3 (3m 24s): Yeah. Yeah. True. True Beth. Thank you for joining us on CripChat. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I haven’t used public transport in a wall because of the concerns of catching the COVID the one now, but back then I was a regular traveler I’ll call buses. Trains. Yeah. Taxis

Speaker 4 (3m 52s): oh,

Speaker 3 (4m 3s): Oh yeah, no I, well, first things first when your, you know, when you, when you would need to go to a specific location, you always have to do your research, do your research, to see if it’s fussy. If it’s accessible, if you’re able to, you know, get inside the place you want to visit, but make sure that your murder of transport is also accessible. So you got to look at whether the trains access all the stations, but the color as well.

You got to see if they’re accessible because some of them don’t have lifts that only stairs and people with disabilities that use wheelchairs. I know I would get up because there’s that lift very insane that the once you get on the platform, the train, the operator or the security guard, there should be able to help you. You know, they have a raft they’re going to accommodate you when you get on the train.

So yeah. Just tell them that this lesson you’re going to, and I call it the year with buses, you got to do your research, usually get a transport and the information should be there. So everything you need to know should be there. There are also taxis out there that are accessible and cannot accommodate people on wheelchairs.

Well, to be honest, I’ve never really got up to the smart car there, but from the experiences of the M and a yeah, from what people have said, using this pharmacology, you don’t require a 60 chart on her DACA every time. So you can top up on a car, just like an apple card. And yeah, you’ll be able to guess by the taxi driver undergo. So pretty, it’s pretty much like on an oval card, very reliant.

That’s very efficient. Yeah. Music for that. I think it’s a great initiative. Yeah. If you, if you’re a regular user of the taxi, you get out to the small God or do you need to ID a photo and yeah. Money to top up the card and you’re good to go. So yeah, we move on. Also, if anyone has any experiences or public transport, I want us to say, please do send the comments.

So Jonathan, any positive experiences, I got your brother treads for others of you feel, you know, having the independency to travel easily convict judge from

Speaker 4 (7m 33s): . Aye. Oh aye.

Speaker 5 (8m 9s): So Johnson. You want a question for the jet?

Speaker 3 (8m 14s): They said, you’re a freak. You’re a frequent user of the train. Others make you feel you and I catching the train.

Speaker 5 (8m 23s): Well using a train because in Sydney they announce the stops next pop. But sometimes, sometimes they, I forget to say when it had, it was man, all a lot of times they forgot to say the next stop. So I used to call up the, the actual train, the place that helped gives us support or the, the, the ones that The transport info.

And he used to tell them, please, among these, trying to make sure that they announced the, the stops, but now it’s automatically done.

Speaker 3 (9m 9s): Oh, that’s awesome. That’s awesome. So I guess I met some more convenient for the visually impaired.

Speaker 5 (9m 17s): Yeah. But the problem, the problem now, I don’t know. Everything’s gone. Metro and Metro is unmanned. I think.

Speaker 3 (9m 27s): Yeah.

Speaker 5 (9m 28s): I don’t know. It’s all computers now, robots, whatever it doesn’t It’s driver lists. But you get within that. If it’s going to be better. Other than that, recently I went to the train station and my, the complaint. Why? Because I’ve taken old CTO.

Speaker 3 (9m 51s): Oh wow. That’s not good. There’s

Speaker 5 (9m 55s): No states.

Speaker 4 (9m 60s): And I am, eh,

Speaker 5 (10m 25s): With the interstate, trying to, they have a charge of, for your, for the actual actual wheelchair.

Speaker 3 (10m 35s): I drove about the entire city’s trains. Yes. Look, I’m not that on off, but if any one knows in their car and please leave us a comment, there is a to see the trends have a at that, does the charges fall foul to Wolf?

Speaker 5 (10m 55s): I think, I think he can. I think you can plug yourself in there and get, get charged. I’m not sure, but

Speaker 3 (11m 3s): So I will go to Colby from Bev. I find a lot of bus drivers and Uber drivers are very nice and helpful. And I agree. I agree because it is their job to make us feel more comfortable and accommodated when we’re traveling is that noise

Speaker 5 (11m 27s): AB especially now bus drivers have cameras in there so they know whether they are not being nice. So this X bus driver, and he told me some on to some bus drivers to accommodating and some are

Speaker 3 (11m 56s): . We will never come across some nasty.

Speaker 5 (12m 2s): Yeah. But now they’ve got cameras all over buses and that there are shows that they not being rude to us anymore.

Speaker 3 (12m 14s): School stuff is tough.

Speaker 5 (12m 17s): Say I’ve had a bus driver tell me we gone. I’m going to the shop. It’s on. I’ll drop you in front of it. So yeah.

Speaker 3 (12m 27s): Yeah. But apart from the, you know, positive experiences that we’ve come across, sometimes we come across bad situations, negative experiences. Have you ever come across that David

Speaker 5 (12m 43s): Negative experiences sometimes with passengers? Yeah. Sometimes they lose passengers, some passengers, some, some messages do they have disabilities? And I don’t know if they’ve got medical situations and some them, so you can’t always take it to heart. If some people,

Speaker 3 (13m 5s): How would you, how would you make public transport, you know, more accessible?

Speaker 5 (13m 10s): How would I make the transport more accessible? Well, having with the buses, what stopped you? They’re going to stop sometimes. I’ve got the GPS saying next cop, this, okay.

Speaker 3 (13m 26s): Yeah. The more advanced the, our buses

Speaker 5 (13m 30s): can do that, but sometimes the bus driver doesn’t know to turn around. So you’ve got, you’ve got apps that actually tell you how far the bus is. The next app that creates, that tells you some, some buses have GPS on it and it tells you where it is and how long before it gets there. And if it’s run by The next, the

Speaker 3 (14m 2s): Next day

Speaker 5 (14m 4s): And that’s a free app, but I think I know.

Speaker 3 (14m 7s): Yeah. Good stuff. Good stuff. So yeah. If anyone wants to get into that, the next day app on your smart devices that give a lot for that,

Speaker 5 (14m 16s): There is in T H a a think

Speaker 3 (14m 22s): Beth, Mike, and they get to the experiences when I was young, got a lot of the taxi drivers were very fit and sleaze. Yeah. It’s never a good experience. Cause

Speaker 5 (14m 37s): Sometimes some texts. Sometimes you say some texts, drivers work don’t work for a company. They work for themselves, but they’ve always got their license showing on the dashboard. Yeah. Now you take the license number or take them license plate number and report it to whoever the, the company that, that taxi works for.

Speaker 4 (15m 3s): a and then she Shinji. Oh, oh, okay.

You a, you, I have a,

Speaker 5 (16m 9s): Oh, they refused the bus rather refused take it because Kara, The taxi. That’s not what,

Speaker 3 (16m 21s): That’s not weird at all. That’s very, that’s all hold for if sure, Matt, if you can manage you and getting in and out of a taxi, why do you really need it does make sense, but we need to change your attitudes.

Speaker 4 (16m 40s): Yes. On clones.

Speaker 3 (16m 50s): It’s so good. That makes you feel vulnerable. It makes you feel like it hasn’t that value.

Speaker 5 (16m 59s): Can I ask you, is that probably because the taxi driver didn’t understand you and he doesn’t have a way to drop you off.

Speaker 4 (17m 8s): I hi. who Ang the kid.


Speaker 5 (17m 47s): What, what would you think he wouldn’t? It is that because he was afraid that it does know why, why a taxi driver will take you that because they’re either on the liability. You think that’s probably why Some, you know, a lot of people, when they say the low go through the high, they get scared to take some people with disability on with them.

Speaker 3 (18m 34s): My surely they can’t see us as being a liability,

Speaker 5 (18m 38s): But

Speaker 3 (18m 39s): They have Juliet

Speaker 5 (18m 41s): To some people, some people they do.

Speaker 4 (18m 43s): fine.

Speaker 3 (18m 54s): Yeah. So David, any final thoughts?

Speaker 5 (18m 57s): My soul is Australia is Australia is transport and the public transport is very good at the moment, but they can pay a little bit of tweaks here and there, but it’s improved me as it goes forward. And if say people on public transport, they have disability always ask them, can I help you? Is there anything in age or where are you going? Do you need me to tell you when we get there or anything like that, ask them if they need any help

Speaker 3 (19m 36s): With stuff but stuff. Jonathan, do you have any final thoughts?

Speaker 4 (19m 45s): no,

Speaker 5 (20m 18s): There is a problem with the full, some parts that have concrete. So it’s a bit hard to get to some bus stops.

Speaker 3 (20m 28s): Yeah, exactly. That’s true. Yeah. And also there need to be more buses, especially in the rural areas. Not just like in the busy areas and because everybody travels, not just the city people and yeah. They need to be more accessible train stations as well. Need to be more accessible. We need to have more accessible stations.

Speaker 5 (20m 58s): Well with the Metro, but that’s coming. That’s what can up to 2025, that’s going to be very accessible.

Speaker 3 (21m 9s): We’ll sell guys. We’ll see how we guys Johnson.

Speaker 4 (21m 18s): yeah.

Speaker 3 (21m 33s): When the time comes, when the time comes, I feel you’ll be a more positive one. Now you have been watching CripChat. We get pockets on everything. Disability, join us next week, where we’ll be talking about a new issue, I guess, topic, but for now enjoy your week guys. Take care,

Speaker 5 (21m 56s): Right? Comments. If you want to any information about anything or any topics

Speaker 3 (22m 5s): I gave one C for now. Okay. I support my

Speaker 1 (22m 9s): Okay. After class on Wednesdays who loves to cook and is into salsa. Dancing,

Speaker 2 (22m 18s): Mabel is the website that’s revolutionizing disability support. It lets you find and choose PayPal, offering the support that you want. And because we’re online, it’s easy and affordable. Find your that I use.

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